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== Participants ==
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==== First day ====
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Moritz Wissenbach
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* CS background
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* interests
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** genetic edition
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** TEI/XML
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** alternative text models
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* projects
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** [https://faustedition.uni-wuerzburg.de/dev/project/about Faust project]
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** using DB with own format
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[http://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/en/staff/members/jucontreras Jorge Urzua]
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* CS background
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* interests
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** medadata representation in form of a graph
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** knowledge representation
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* projects
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** Max-Planck Inst.
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** Europeana
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** OpenMind project
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[http://www.bbaw.de/die-akademie/mitarbeiter/czmiel Alex Czmiel]
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* projects
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** DH in the [http://www.bbaw.de/en/research/avh Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften]
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** [http://www.bbaw.de/telota/projekte Telota]
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** long term projects in DH
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Ronald Haentjens-Dekker <!-- ronald.dekker@huygens.knaw.nl -->
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Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands
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The panel convenor
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Gregor Middell <!-- gregor@middell.net -->
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IT and contemp. lit. background
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Faust project
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http://gregor.middell.net/
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http://www.juxtacommons.org/
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Paolo Monella <!-- paolo.monella@gmx.net -->
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Accademia dei Lincei, Rome
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Orlandi's textual layers
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prototype
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Tara Andrews <!-- Tara.Andrews@arts.kuleuven.be -->,
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UK and US
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background byzantine
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stemmatology
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text collation and text variation
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Federico Meschini <!-- fmeschini@unitus.it -->
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library information science and IT background
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digital libraries and open educational resources
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== 21/11/2012, Morning ==
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Discussion on text modelling.
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Two main alternatives to XML:
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* range based model (for annotations)
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* variant graph (for collation)
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Tara is using (with Collatex) a graph-based model more complex sthan Schmidt's one.
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Paolo is interested in a text model that can represent textual layers (graphical, alphabetical, linguistic).
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* Tara: we can stretch Schmidt's graph to represent the different Orlandi's layers. They're still graphs
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Gregor: not variant graphs; they're not variants
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Gregor introduces the range-based model and LMNL in particular
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Alex has made his master's thesis on LMNL
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LMNL seems to be good for Orlandi's 'textual layers'
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* practicality: what can we build on top of e.g. a range-based model (from the datastore to the presentation layer)
 
* practicality: what can we build on top of e.g. a range-based model (from the datastore to the presentation layer)
 
* query/search functions on top of a text model
 
* query/search functions on top of a text model

Revision as of 11:35, 24 November 2012

Participants

First day

Moritz Wissenbach

  • CS background
  • interests
    • genetic edition
    • TEI/XML
    • alternative text models
  • projects

Jorge Urzua

  • CS background
  • interests
    • medadata representation in form of a graph
    • knowledge representation
  • projects
    • Max-Planck Inst.
    • Europeana
    • OpenMind project

Alex Czmiel

Ronald Haentjens-Dekker Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands The panel convenor

Gregor Middell IT and contemp. lit. background Faust project http://gregor.middell.net/ http://www.juxtacommons.org/

Paolo Monella Accademia dei Lincei, Rome Orlandi's textual layers prototype

Tara Andrews , UK and US background byzantine stemmatology text collation and text variation

Federico Meschini library information science and IT background digital libraries and open educational resources

21/11/2012, Morning

Discussion on text modelling.

Two main alternatives to XML:

  • range based model (for annotations)
  • variant graph (for collation)

Tara is using (with Collatex) a graph-based model more complex sthan Schmidt's one.

Paolo is interested in a text model that can represent textual layers (graphical, alphabetical, linguistic).

  • Tara: we can stretch Schmidt's graph to represent the different Orlandi's layers. They're still graphs

Gregor: not variant graphs; they're not variants

Gregor introduces the range-based model and LMNL in particular

Alex has made his master's thesis on LMNL

LMNL seems to be good for Orlandi's 'textual layers'

  • practicality: what can we build on top of e.g. a range-based model (from the datastore to the presentation layer)
  • query/search functions on top of a text model
  • variant graph vs. range-based models
  • processing (equivalent to XSLT?), querying (equivalent to XPath/XQuery)
  • variant graph: traversal patterns?
  • interfaces, APIs, JS libraries
  • problem of variation and how it is handled on different (conceptual) layers of a text
  • common model? can we find a generalized model incorporating features from the variant graph and a range-based model
  • bridge the gap!
  • integration scenarios; import of existing data, multiple use cases on top of those (what is the smallest thing that could possibly work? -- how do we get there)

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